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Schindler's List | Striking Distance MEGAMIX

Schindler's List | Striking Distance MEGAMIX

"I should've done more," says the incomparable Liam Neeson in Schinder's List, to Sir Ben Kingsley.

"Man, I sure can drive this boat!" says Bruce Willis to Sarah Jessica Parker in Striking Distance, probably. 

This episode we tackle a two-fer, two historically vital movies from 1993. 

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Welcome to Movie Life Crisis. Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago. How many minutes does? Let me rephrase that. There's an exception to every rule. I can pick your badge right now for initiating an illegal investigation of the Pittsburgh Police Force. Party behind you! What the hell is this? It's Tom Hardy. Bruce Willis. Sarah Jessica Parker. Striking the distance. Way to die. At theaters of September 17th. What is that? I didn't even hear the title. What was that? Striking distance. Of course, Movie Life Crisis season 3 episode 2. Striking distance. Bruce Willis drives a boat. Sarah Jessica Parker's also there. Nice. I think I watched the wrong movie. Would you watch? I watched Shindler's list. Oh, you thought I was serious about Shindler's list? Oh, my God. Oh, no. I like crappy. You kidding me? There's no way. I have a really long word document filled with sad writings. Oh, man. There's nothing to do with striking distance. All right. That's cool. Just follow along as best you can. Striking distance is really pretty good. The movie that your dad kept renting over and over. I kept renting over and over again. Season 3 episode 2 Movie Life Crisis. Striking distance. Slash Shindler's list. The Mega Mix. The mashup. I really, I would have watched striking distance had I known. Let me hang on one second. I got the real trailer too. There were names. Names that stood for evil. For madness. For terror. But there were also names that brought hope that meant courage. Names like Oscar Shindler. Their lives meant nothing. Until their names meant everything. To him. A film by Steven Spielberg. Shindler's list. Rated R. Cool. Not near as happy as striking distance. It's a little bit different. Different town. Here's what's going on. Shindler's list is a huge movie that made a bunch of money and won a lot of awards. A ton of money. And is really well remembered and thought of as one of the best movies ever made in one of the most important movies ever made. And we knew that we had to do it for the podcast. Yeah, however, it's a huge bummer. Man. So the plan that I came up with because Jeff and I hate anti-Semitism, but we like Mr. Show. So I decided to take a page from maybe the finest sketch comedy show in history and mess with the format by surprising Jeff by reviewing two movies at one time and just bringing it on him. Because I think while we want to talk about Shindler's list, it was bummer me out thinking about talking about Shindler's list, which means it might be that much fun to listen to. Yeah, awesome. I don't know if you know this. My dad didn't rent striking distance over and over. So I know nothing about it. It's cool. The nice thing about striking distance is that not having seen it won't really impact your enjoyment. Nice. I'm very excited. It's just like any other Bruce Willis cop movie where he drives a boat and Sarah Jessica Parker is his partner who's secretly an internal affairs agent who's investigating him. Andre Brower's there, Timothy Busfield's there, Tom Seismor's there. Nice. It's a lot of fun. It's not good at all. Sounds like a great movie. Yeah. Bruce Willis is starting to lose his hair, but it's still looking pretty strong. Is he brushing it straight back? He's brushing it. It's like kind of back and over. And he wears a hat a lot of the time. And he's got a cigarette. And he's now a colic. Nice. But anyway, we knew we wanted to do Shindler's list and we are going to do Shindler's list, but I just was banging my head against a wall of this movie's a huge bummer, and it's supposed to be, but it's also really important. But I don't think people click on our podcast to get bummed out. Yeah. So how do I work around that? I hope not. Well, dude, let's just say right up top, right at the very beginning. And no matter where this conversation takes us, you and I both loathe and I semitism and any other kind of prejudice and honor the immense sacrifices of the Jews who both lived through and did not live through the Holocaust. And any jokes we make in this episode are not about that or directed towards those events or those people. Yes. And also, I don't know how I'm going to joke about it. Well, we're not going to joke about the Holocaust. We're going to joke about other shit, like the time Bruce Willis drove that boat. Right, right. And also, real quickly, we shouldn't have to say this, but I feel like we're going to anyway, the Holocaust was Hitler's Germany's attempted genocide of the Jewish people during World War II. They failed to eradicate the Jews from the world, but they succeeded in mass murdering over 6 million of them using methods so heinous that if I described them to you, none of us would be able to sleep for a week. And it was real. It was absolutely real. We're not going to spend a lot of time on that. Other than to say that it was an atrocity on levels rarely equaled throughout human history and anyone who claims otherwise is doing a measurable harm to the world. Yeah. Well said. Now, Bruce Willis drove the shit out of that boat. And I thought Tom Sizemore was the bad guy, but he wasn't. He really threw me for a loop because he always looks like the bad guy. Wait, but so did you not remember that Tom Sizemore wasn't the bad guy or? No, no. Despite my dad renting this movie every single weekend for like a month and a half, I didn't remember the twists and turns all that well. Nice. At any point, did Bruce Willis wear those really cool pants at Oscar Shannler kept wearing when he rode horses where they're really thick at the thighs and they have like the extra leg room. Is that for riding horses? That's for riding horses, yes. That's the fancy horse riding pants. And I think they even have like horse riding people have to tell us for sure. But I think they have like, they're almost like coat hanger metal in there to keep them all lovely. What? I thought they were just like, that's extra space to open your legs more. Like I always thought, hey, you know what? Bigon should get him some horse riding pants. Since he can't close his legs ever. Dude, Wolf should get him some horse riding pants. That kid's got frickin'. He's got legs like John Randall. Remember that guy, the defensive tackle from the Vikings? With the face paint. I was barking at people. Oh man, that's awesome. Yeah, no, Bruce Willis mainly wore shorts because he got demoted from homicide detective to be in a boat cop. And so in any wore shorts and then his old homicide detective frenemies would always make fun of him for wearing shorts. Oh, so like the other guys on the force that like, like the two Puerto Rican guys on bad boys that just constantly made fun of him, but they really helped him in the year. Well, there was a serial killer and they found a guy and he confessed and they put him away. But Bruce Willis was convinced it was actually a police officer. There was a serial killer. And so he kept saying this and then all the police got mad at him. Of course they did. Yeah. And then, and also his whole family, every character in this movie is a cousin of Bruce Willis's. The whole movie is just police officers who are all related. They're related in real life. No, no, in the movie. Oh, they're all cousins. They're all cousins and uncles and dads and brothers and it's everyone. The whole Pittsburgh police force, including the boat police are all related in this movie. Maybe not in real life. So kind of like all of the people who survived. Schindler's and Schindler's like mini concentration camp are now all still related all six thousand of them. The ones that lived through it. Yeah. That's a nice transition. The six thousand descendants of the eleven hundred Schindler Juden that that Oscar Schindler helped live through World War II. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. You save one. You save the whole world. That is what the Talmud says. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've got this synopsis of striking distance. Once you go ahead and give us for Schindler's list. In German occupied Poland during World War II, there is an industrial name. Oscar Schindler, he gradually becomes concerned for his Jewish workforce after witnessing the persecution of the Nazis. So he tries to save as many as he can. Yeah. Did you know that there's a thing called simple Wikipedia? I did not know. Yeah. So you can type anything that you would type into regular Wikipedia into simple Wikipedia. Yeah. And it'll it gives you like where the the Schindler's list with Wikipedia is like nine pages long, the simple Wikipedia is two paragraphs. That's pretty nice. Yeah. So I think it's maybe for I don't know if it's for kids or for people who English isn't their first language, but I got there accidentally. And I was like, oh, this might be I teach people that are 18 years old. So they're not kids and English is not their second language. And that would be perfect for them because they just hate to read. So unless it's on TikTok and then they want all the captions on all the time. Right. We should go through and put all of Wikipedia on a TikTok. I'll just stand there and dance and you read over the top of me dancing. Yeah. Every Wikipedia page. Well, one of our 2023 podcast goals is to start recording short form videos again once I have a regular place to record from and then maybe we'll upload some stuff to TikTok where your students who don't want to listen to us talk, look at videos of us where their captions. Right. So it seems like a way worse way to consume this particular program. But that's what they want. Yeah, that's definitely what they want. They were like, well, I pulled it up and I saw that it was a six who is 60 minutes. I was out. I was like, okay. What were you doing? I was flying to New York. I was like, you didn't have 60 minutes. No, I just couldn't focus for 60 minutes. I was like, oh man, come on. Yeah. That is how I felt watching Shindler's list. Really? I was like, oh man. This thing has got to be almost over and I was like, oh no, two hours and 10 minutes to go. I was riveted the whole time because it's been a long time since I saw it. This is not one of those movies where you just like watch it a lot. Hey, Shindler's list is on. Let's watch that while we do it. We watchability here very low. Very low. But I mean, I'm definitely probably going to see it again for sure because I have kids and I want to show them. But oh man. It did make a ton of money though. That's why we did it. $122 million gross on a $22 million budget. Yeah. That's all I want to be doing. Because Spielberg filmed a documentary style using just like a bunch of extras and actual parts of Poland and he filmed using handheld cameras. He didn't use study cam. He didn't use dollies. He didn't use crane shots. Right. The production buzz it was like nothing super low. Right. And then it made hundreds of millions of dollars. And dude like fricking president Clinton and Oprah and everybody was like, you got to go see this movie. Like people were going like, everyone get to the theaters and see this. Yeah. Dude, I remember as soon as it came out on VHS, we watched it at school on the double VHS. Like it's I was thinking about the double VHS pretty recently. Because the avatar people are talking about avatar all the time. Like dude, remember the Titanic came in the double VHS to get to the middle and you have to fricking. I can remember renting. Titanic. And getting to the part where. Lyro de Caprio falls. Like let's go with the thing. It falls down. Yeah. And then you would stop it right there on that second tape and not rewind it. And then we would put it in the thing. So the next person they're like, oh, it's watch the second one. They stick it in and they see how it ends right then. Nice. That's really bad about that. Yeah. Wait a spoil Titanic. The true story about a boat that sank 100 years before the movie came out. Do the only. The only VHS is that I. Did we just own VHS's. VHS's. VHS tapes. Movies that took up two tapes. So I want to say like. So it was 10 commandments. That took up two tapes. Yeah. It was the Charlton Hessian version. Obviously. Right. I'm sure there's probably a Kirk Cameron version or something now that I don't know about. Thankfully. Yeah. It's a mad, mad, mad world. The original one from the 60s. Yeah. I don't remember that one. Titanic. Titanic. Titanic. Titanic. And Schindler's List. And Schindler's List was we obviously didn't own that one. I don't know. My parents liked me, I guess. You know, my mom owned it, but my mom. She definitely did. She teaches the Holocaust still. Like she takes a week and teaches the Holocaust still to the kids. Like she's in the library now full time, but she still stops and goes and teaches the Holocaust for a week. Yeah. Cause she's a good teacher. Yeah. But yeah, there are. There were only only four or five movies and my. Childhood that took two VHS tapes. Right. And I remember all of them. I remember the ones that were like different. I remember all the Disney ones came in the little clamshell. Yeah, the clamshell. I remember like Johnny Nomonic was a bright orange tape. Yeah. Stuff like that. I remember striking distance, by the way, $77 million gross on a $30 million budget. Didn't do quite as well. Yeah. Still did pretty pretty good. Very good. Made some money. Yeah. I don't think there was a lot of time or attention or thought that went into the making of that movie. I'm sure they were happy to make forty seven explosions and stuff like that. There was good stuff like explosions. Yeah. Some boats exploded. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I swear to God. It's Tom Hardy. What? Yeah. Did he hit a British accent? No. And Tom Hardy was alive then. I just don't think he was a famous actor. Yeah. But anyway, whatever. I like when that happens. Yeah. Awards striking distance in that way. Yeah. Yeah. Awards striking distance did not really bring in any awards. But Chandler's listed. So why don't you go ahead and take that part? Yeah. Academy Awards. It won Best Picture. It won Best Director. Best adapted screenplay. Best score. Best film editing. Best cinematography. Best art direction. It pretty much cleaned up at the at the ninety three Oscars. Yeah. Golden Globes and one Best Picture Director screenplay. All that stuff. It was nominated for even more stuff. Nominated for Best Actor for the incomparable Liam Neesons. The incomparable Liam Neesons. Best supporting actor. Ralph Fiennes. Fiennes. Fiennes. Fiennes. Fiennes. I think. Fiennes. Yeah. Best makeup. Best sound. Best costume design. I don't even know what won that year. But I can't imagine. Like, dude, everything about this movie was so well put together. Yeah. Which makes it even more of a bummer that it was so well put together. If it was all friggin' slapdash and put together really crappily, I think it wouldn't have had the same effect. So I'm glad they did it the way they did. And it's hard because, because we were talking about this. We've been talking about this for two weeks. It's been new. We were going to do this movie. We knew we had to do it. We knew we wanted to do it. And also, we want to do this because it's fun for us. And we think people listen because it's fun for them. How do we make this experience fun? Right. And the only way we can really come up with is because we don't have a lot of best scenes and best quotes like we normally do. The categories is like, we might just spend a little chunk of time talking about all of the horrifying stuff that this movie depicted. And then smoothly transition into from a movie making standpoint, here's how all the cool things happen that happened with this movie. Right. Yeah. I went through and tried to come up with some scenes and stuff. So we'll see how it goes. All right. What about sequels and spinoffs for striking distance? Striking distance did not get a sequel or spinoff. And there's been no talks of a reboot, which is a real bummer because it seems like it's endlessly rebootable. That doesn't sound right at all. Was there no videos or nothing? Serial killer. There might have been some video games tie-ins. That's usually your area. So I didn't look hard for that. No, I don't think there was even a video game tie-in. This movie made no impact. And I don't think Bruce Willis would even remember having been in it. Not now. I thought it would. Yeah. See, that's the joke because it's his memories failing. That's why we're acting anymore. Right. There was a joke about Ronald Reagan like that. Because like Ronald Reagan sitting at the breakfast table opens up the newspaper and turns to his wife and goes, oh my gosh, honey, Ronald Reagan has Alzheimer's. Jesus. All right. Thanks, Jerry. Yes. Thanks, Jerry. For all of those. Do you remember when and where you first saw this movie? Again, knowing who my mom is. She teaches the Holocaust every year to eighth graders. She's been to Auschwitz and drag out in all those places. She's been to Poland to do the thing. I had a lot of context going into this. So I saw it in the theater with them. That's wild, man. You guys were early on this. They probably even before Oprah and Bill Clinton were like, you've got to go see this. Right. Right. None of them had already taken you. Yeah. And this is the thing. Like, I knew at the time like on a bigger scale like, hey, Nazis are bad. They killed a bunch of Jews. Like, I understood that whole thing because, you know, not only did we already kind of learn that. You know, everybody knows Hitler's bad. But then like my mom kind of filled in some blanks. I didn't know like all the information I know now. And even again, when we watched it in high school, you know, a couple of years later on VHS to talk about it with, you know, a thousand permission slips. Even then, I don't think I knew all of the stuff I know now, which makes it just so much worse. Yeah. So much worse. I, um, I mean, your mom was my religion teacher, but I don't remember us seeing this when it came out. And I don't remember seeing it in high school, but I know I must have. I honestly think I blocked the memory out. Um, yeah, probably. Again, I saw it pretty early. Uh, and I've seen it like maybe four times total. Yeah. For different reasons. But where do you rate it? I do. It's a great movie. Great direction. The acting's great. The special effects are great. The score is great. Editing is great. Everything's wonderful. Uh, except the topic. So I gave it a nine, nine chimi dogs. Yeah. Um, I mean, just the fact that it happened in the first place is bad, but the fact that we have to make movies like this to remind people that it happened. So it doesn't happen again. It's kind of infuriating. So I don't know. I gave it a nine. Yeah. It was like all the things it was supposed to do it did. And it did it in a really great way. I think I had to go. I had to go try and reverse engineer what exactly when I rate a movie. What is it that I'm saying about it? Yes. I think generally when I think in my head, how I rate a movie, what I'm thinking is on a scale of one to 10 chimi dogs, how much do I want to watch this movie more? Yeah. Like I'm I'm rating like what's my enjoyment level? Because functionally, I'm just watching movies and the limited time I have to watch movies because they're going to entertain me and they're going to distract me and it's they're an escape from my day to day life. Right. This is never once in a while. We'll go to the Nashville art house theater, shout out the bell court, and we'll go watch an awesome movie that's like really wrenching. And then we talk about it afterwards at dinner. That's not as much fun as when they do Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the minute I'm showing and I can't watch that. Yeah, absolutely. So that's so I figured it out too. But when I was doing the rating for this movie, same as you, I do 60% on how the movie was put together and 40% of how much I liked it. That's how I'm rating it from here on out. Yeah, I think that's why I got a night. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people who say that that is too low. I went six and a half. Yeah, just because. Well, and that's, but again, like I'm, I'm saying based on my personal level of enjoyment. Right. My personal level of enjoyment watching this movie was a one. Right. It's brutal. It's supposed to be. That's the idea. That's what Spielberg wanted to do. It's meant to be a gut punch. It's not. He wasn't trying to make ET or Jurassic Park. Right. Mission accomplished really well done. So on a craftsmanship level, I have to go like 10 out of 10. Movie making this is an absolute slam dunk. That's why I get all categories. Right. But from an enjoyment level, I got nothing. I don't, I don't, it didn't enjoy it. I wasn't supposed to enjoy it. Like, I mean, it's 98% on Rotten Tomatoes. It swept the Oscars. It's on every list of the best movies ever made. Right. I just, it's not what I want out of a movie. This is like having a root canal. I was in pain the whole time. Are you gonna wait for it to end? And I'll never forget it. So about halfway through when they start like evacuating the ghettos. Yeah. I decided to switch from on how I was watching it. And I switched to, I want to know how they did that. Like, yeah, I had to pull myself out of the actual, you know, because I'm like watching the movie. It's like turned up really loud. I'm right in, I'm watching the screen really close. And like, I get pulled into the movie. And I don't want to be pulled into this movie. Right. Like, again, that's what it was made for. I started watching it for like there's a part where they, they pick up the lady and there's two guards. And they're holding her under her armpits. And they're dragging her feet. And she's like, no, I don't want to go that way. No, I don't want to go that way. I shouldn't be going that way. I should be over here. I promise I'm one of these people. And another guy just picks up a rifle because he was sick of hearing it and shoots her in the chest or in the stomach or somewhere in the front. But the camera's behind it. And there's an explosion. You see the stuffing from the gun and stuff like that. As soon as that happened, I was just like, I can't be part of like I don't want to think about how horrible this is anymore. I want to think about it from a movie making standpoint. Like, okay, how do you do that? Like, okay, you put like a squid back there and there's a charge and it blows out the back and the stuffing's in there so it shoots out. Man, that's really, that's cool how they did that. And they have to time it with the same, you know, the same time as the gun when you see the smoke from the gun and that to do that. So I tried to start thinking of it that way to try to pull myself out of it a little bit. Cause man, it was just, it's brutal. It's rough, man. And so it's like, I should reward that because it's supposed to be rough like Spielberg wanted it to be a documentary style film that really like, like dude, he wanted the screenwriter to make the script way longer because, and he's like specifically asked for him to expand the section where the Warsaw ghetto massacre. He said, hang on, I got the quote he's like, he's like, I want that, I want that scene to be almost unwatchable. Well done, congratulations. It was almost unwashed. So like, I don't know how to rank a movie where he's like, I want this to be horrible to watch. It was. Do I rate that highly or do I rate that lowly cause I don't want movies to be horrible to watch but also that's what he was trying to do. So anyway. But dude, it's just our rating. It doesn't matter. I'm just saying if I go back and look at my historical list when I get to six and a half, I'm going to see movies that I feel like, if you gave me a choice, all the six and a half movies, I go like, yeah, any one of those is fine. I'll put on any one of those. And the movies that are eights because those are the only scores we have. We don't do sevens or seven and a half. So I go, any of the eights, I'll do, I don't have any preference between those. Those are all fine. But I totally understand if somebody wants to light me up for that because this movie is universally beloved and as a piece of film is incredible. It's just brutal. It is brutal. There is, you're talking about how long it is. Yeah. There is another movie. S-H-O-A-H. How you say that? Showa? Showa? Yeah. So at one point, I actually had a copy of that movie and I was like, all right, I'm going to try to watch this. It was on PBS. Yeah. And that's actually a documentary about the actual documentary. Dude, it's nine hours. Yeah. So this is an absolute breeze comparatively. Right. And the guy who directed Showa actually was one of the people who like vocally didn't like Schindler's list. And I think it seemed like the quote I read was like, he just doesn't like fiction as an art form. He was like, there's this bullshit. I can't believe he was doing all that stuff. Right. And it's like, all right. But I mean, if I don't want to watch three hours and 15 minutes, like with the incomparable Liam Neesons up front, I definitely am not watching nine and a half hours. Right. No. Yeah, dude. And he was brutal. I didn't make it through the nine hours. Yeah. Dude. But I mean, ultimately like this movie, made a ton of money, won a ton of awards. And it's very well remembered 30 years later, because it was great. Right. But it should be terrible, dude. It's a historical film shot in black and white. It's about genocide. It's three hours and 15 minutes. All the elements are there for this to be a horrible movie. And it's stark and terrifying and horribly real. It's the acting. It's fantastic. The screenplay that was adapted from that book, it's amazing. The editing is great. Like the girl in the red coat and the lights on the candles. All of those things, dude, it's just, they killed it. They probably shouldn't say that. But they did a really good job. It did an excellent job. Thank you. Although there was a lot of killing in the movie. Got so much. So much killing. But we talked about this when we watched Unforgiven. And it's like, oh, this movie is an anti-hero. And it really messes with the format of the Western. And I was like, well, if the idea was for me to be, for me to be jarred and then to go, oh, dude, that's weird. I wonder why they did that. Then that, they accomplished that. But also that means that it enjoyed as much. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, it's like, dude, are we shooting someone else? We get it. If you're tired of looking at them, shooting people across three hours, imagine what six years of genocide was like for the people who lived through it. Can't even imagine. All right, best scenes. My first best scene is Bruce Willis and his dad. They're on the way to the policeman's ball. We get in a car chase with serial killer who's driving the exact same car. Dude, both cars wreck like it's a Talladega 500. Bruce Willis's dad dies. And then Bruce Willis becomes an alcoholic. And then gets demoted to be in a boat cop. What kind of alcoholic is he? Is he like drinking straight out the bottle? Kind of alcoholic or is he like? No, it's like the Mel Gibson lethal weapon. Alcoholic, where he just says like a bottle of whiskey and is like trailing a lethal weapon. He's in die hard. No. But like Mel Gibson and Lee. Oh, got it. That type of alcoholic. Although Mel Gibson lives in an air stream trailer on the beach, Bruce Willis lives in a houseboat. So when he gets demoted to be a boat cop, he already is very familiar with boats. He's right there. But it's important for me to tell you that his dad is played by John Mahoney, who you probably better know as Frazier's dad in the sitcom. Oh, yeah, I like that guy. Me too. I like that guy. That was my first best scene. I just didn't know if he was a fancy drunk. Because no, no, he lived in a houseboat. He wore like white beater, and he drank right out of the bottle, and he smoked. Oscar Schindler had like the little flask. But he didn't even drink out of the flask like a, no, he would pour the flask into like a tiny little goblet, and then drink it. Yeah, he had it in the tiny little, yeah, he had it in the little tiny cup that like Jason Lee had in Mallrats. Yes. Where he was like, fill this with Coke with noise. Like the little tiny cup. I like how he carried that around. That was really nice. Yeah. All right, that's not my first best scene. When Bruce Willis dead, that's my first best scene is when Oscar Schindler opens the factory, and he's trying to find a secretary, and he's bringing in just one after another of smoke and hot chicks. None of them can type. They're all like one finger at a time, hunt and peck system. One of them doesn't even know what to do when the typewriter gets to the end, and he has to push it back for him. He's actually pushed the carriage return back. And it's like, you know, music's playing. It's like a little montage. And they're going through all the different hot chicks. And then they get to the last one. And it's like this old lady. She's like typing fast, being super productive, smoking out of the side. And, you know, ishtack, stern. He's like, you have to pick one. He's like, I don't know how to pick just one. I can't, I can't do that. Frig and he ends up hiring him all. And the next scene is him standing out front of the factory with like 26 smoke and hot chicks and one old hag that can type. That's, I like that. Yeah, dude, honestly, I don't, I don't even know if I understood that scene because all the girls were typing like, you're saying like real slow, but dude, the whole time they're typing. They're just like making moon eyes and the incomparable Liam Neesons. And it's like, aren't you a Jew and crack out who's trying to get a job so that you don't get taken to a concentration camp? Is maybe flirting is the way to do that. I guess I don't know, because I wasn't, I've never been a young Jewish woman or lived in Poland or in the German occupation. He stared into the eyes of the incomparable Liam Neesons. I'm not, I'm not stared into the eyes of the incomparable Liam Neesons. But yeah, I was like, why aren't they trying to type better? But it seems like they actually probably weren't doing that the right way because they all got hired. Yeah, boy did they. Yeah, that was my first one. I just liked it because when they finally got to the part where the old lady was typing, he was like slouching, not even facing the table anymore. Yeah, he was over it. Yeah, nice. My, my next best scene. And again, I don't think best is the right word for it because it's not like I went like, oh, that was fun. I'd watch that again. Right. But let's say my next powerful scene was the luggage. There was a shot, kind of in the first third of the movie where it's like all the Jewish people are being heard and it's like, yeah, just write your name on your luggage, set it here. And then it'll meet you when you get where you're going. And then they heard of them all in the trains. And then like the camera pans to the luggage is just, it's just fricking, they're just opening it up. They're taking the valuables. They're throwing their rest away and they're burning it. And then they're off to the concentration camp. They're definitely not ever seeing their shit again. Right. And dude, right before that, they show all the people. They're like, they're like, yeah, first of all, it's not like, all right, everyone come downstairs, bring all your valuables. Let's line up in an or they were like yelling in angry as German to get down there. So everybody's like trying their best. Like one, the family that they follow or the couple that they follow has like a frigging huge picture that he takes off the wall and like sticks it in the, breathe in inside the suitcase. Like they were trying to take a whole bunch of stuff and none of that made it. Yeah, none of it. And dude, I even looked because I was trying to figure out if anyone has even been able to calculate how much wealth was stolen from the Jews during World War II. And I don't think it has been calculated, but it's billions. Yeah, of course it is. I mean, they literally took all their shit. Every possession that they brought with them and just like burn the clothes, took the jewelry, took the like everything of value they just took. Dude, they took the gold teeth. Yeah, they, which by the way, my wife's stepdad is what's a mortician or is a mortician. Yeah, he says that's definitely a thing. Like some of the people, some of the people he's been working with have gotten in trouble and can no longer do that because they were stealing gold teeth. It is super tough. But yeah, so the luggage scene I had is just again, like you could just, you could do a college course on how much wealth was stolen from the Jews by the German army during World War II. And they did it in like a three minute scene. Like people are getting on the trains to the left, all the pile of bags to the right. And then you see they're just like, they're just taking all their shit. All of it. And they're piling up. There's like a pile of shoes, a pile of glasses. And this is the thing. I don't know that they needed more than three minutes. No, no. The way they did that was pretty, pretty powerful. That's one of the reasons why I had it on the list is like, that was, that was a concise way of making a really important point. And I would not use the word concise about most of this movie. Yeah, good call. My next scene, not best, but again, powerful. Yeah. When they start to evacuate the ghettos, I think this is right after the part you're talking about. There they go back in there. They have diamonds and all the loose gems that they have and they're wrapping them up in bread. So they can swallow them. So they'll have them with them. And then maybe they'll still have that when they get to wherever they're going. And that's what's gonna be used to barter for food or housing or whatever it is. And they were hiding as much as they could. And they were being shot for no reason at all. It was brutal. Yeah, I think that was the Warsaw Ghetto Massacre section that Spielberg wanted to be almost unwatchable that was really long and unwatchable. Yeah, like the little girl who didn't want to get separated from her mom, but she stayed in the little floor board thing. Remember, like hiding under the floor board and then the mom comes down and sees the little kid who's got the whistle, but he ends up telling her to hide and then the little girl comes down and he hides them all, dude, that's just, and that kid was Jewish. He had the star of David on his shirt, and that's the same kid that later on they find, he's trying to hide when he's in the concentration camp and he can't find any place to hide, they're all taken. People are hiding in the ovens, they're hiding in the fireplaces, they're hiding under the beds, under the floorboards, and where's he end up hiding? He jumps into the little train where he's like neck deep in dukey water. That's just, I don't know if we should even talk about his name, but I'm saying like, did Kanye not see this? How do you watch that and still be like, no, I liked Hitler. What about all the good things he did? Dude, I'm confident that the people like Kanye and Kyrie Irving have never seen this movie. They seem like they're making big statements from very little information, and then like the more engagement they get, even if it's everyone going like, how could you be so fucking stupid? They're going like, man, I'm blowing up, I'm trending again, so, but like, it's not that man, like Kanye's freaking mentally ill, and Kyrie is an absolute idiot who's, I think his third eye is located south of his tank, right where his behold should be. Right, I'm more concerned about regular people who have regular jobs, and like we'll go, because they might, if they live in frickin' middle America, they might never meet a Jewish person. Right, we're going, I don't know, man. And Holocaust seems kind of crazy, six millions a lot. That's even more people than it said, Super Bowl. I don't know if that's real. All right, dude, but can we, that's just because you have a hard time imagining the number, that's not how we should decide what history is real and what isn't. Yeah, I just, dude, it's so, like, after watching it, that just brings it back to the forefront of my mind about how many people I've seen say like, eh, I don't know, it's not that bad. I'm like, what? Maybe that's, I mean, again, that's why Spielberg made it. So he could show people. Well, I think people have a heart, like, you know, like if your kid gets murdered, that's the worst thing that can happen. If someone else's kid gets murdered that you don't know, even if you hear about it, you're like, ah, man, that sucks for them. Should we do tacos for dinner? Right. But if it's like, it's 10,000 people. It's like, I don't even know 10,000 people. Like it's just hard for humans to imagine really large numbers. It's like that Eddie is our bit where he talks about and he's like, you kill a person in Texas, they hit you with a brick in the head and that's your dead and that's what happens to you. You kill 10 people, they put you in a room, that's padded and they look at you through a window for the rest of your life. You kill more than 10 people. They're almost like, well done. He's like, Paul Pot, 1.6 million Cambodians, that under house arrest, well done there. That's what I'm saying. Like, Paul Pot, fricking Genghis Khan, Hitler, like you're killing millions of people. Everyone's like, shit, I don't even know. I mean, what's the appropriate punishment? I don't even know what to do about that. Right. I don't like to do the fricking Ralph Fines character in the in real life and also in the movie and dies by hanging. Right. And I was like, I'm glad that he died, but also that didn't seem like enough of a British man, you know what I'm saying? Like, it kind of is it's the worst punishment you can give him because I don't, I didn't want to watch him be tortured, but it's like, that seems like there should be more than that. You don't want to do what they did, but I feel like living in a dark hole with one meal a day and no light or ever seeing another person for the rest of his life is the answer. Right, but now you're torturing it. It's like, all right, we're really gonna punish torture with more torture. That seems like that could be problematic. That's some old testament shit there. Yeah, I know. I just don't know. What do you do? I mean, I think what you do is you talk about stuff like this and you make movies like this so that you can make sure that if you understand the history, maybe you care that people don't repeat it. Right. And like, if some frickin' US Congress person starts saying, not see shit, everyone gathers together and goes, no, I'm sorry, that's unacceptable. Go away and never come back. I hope we can do that because unfortunately, there's good people on both sides. God bless it. Well, you've never seen the office, so that's a waste of time. Dude, I have people at work that are so mad about that. Frickin' B.J. Novak, who plays Ryan on the office? Like, he's always a terrible person and it leans into it, which is great. And there's a party on one of the later seasons and he like makes a toast. He's like, I like to make a toast to the troops, all the troops, both sides. Do you have any more scenes? My last scene was the ending of Shindler's List. That was good. That was good. And then all the way into the like, actual real-life Shindler. The people. That's what I was capable of. Yeah, stuff on that. Like, the end of the movie is Liam Neeson. Like, he's, the Germans have surrendered. He's leaving the factory. He's like, now you guys are, he gathers all the workers together. He's like, you guys are now free. And I am now a war profiteer. I'm a criminal. And I'm gonna have to flee the Soviet army because I am now broke and a war criminal. And he's leaving and do, they give him a frickin' letter signed by everybody. They go, we wrote a letter that says what you did for us. You saved 1,100 people. Every worker signed it. If you do get captured, maybe this will be helpful. And do Liam Neeson's has a great word. They get him to ring down. He's just going like, I could have done more. Yeah, I do, that, that shit was freaking, that was pretty powerful too. Cause like, that was powerful, man. He's like, he's like looking at his car. He's like, he's like, that car. Why didn't I sell that car? I could have gotten 10 people for that car. Yeah, yeah. He's like, he looks like Nazi pen. He's like, this is solid gold. I could have gotten two people out for this. Why didn't I sell this? Right. But do he's like breaking down and frickin' Sir Ben Kingsley's like, how good am I? It's like, you did, there's 1,100 people here who are alive because of you. Right. And they've the ring that they give him at the end. Yeah, they took, like, some, they took an old guys. Mr. Chair. They said his name like 1,000 times. It's the only reason I remember it. Dude, I couldn't remember it at all. But they, they literally melted it down. They made a gold ring and they engraved the gold ring with the line from the Talmud that says, if you save one person, you saved them all. He, uh, that gave it was Mr. Jared. They just let him start drinking. And they were like, thanks, Mr. Jared. Yeah, thanks, Mr. Jared. And they go, thank you, Mr. Jared. And I was like, why are they thanking him? I can't remember. And then they go, they reach in and pull his, pull his gold teeth out. And like, honestly, the last 45 minutes of this movie, if I were going to rewatch, I would start there. I know all the atrocities. I'm pretty caught up on that. I want to see the redemption final arc and the really powerful realization of Oscar Schindler that even though he had done a lot, he suddenly realized and he hadn't done everything. I mean, this guy spent the last couple of years of World War II literally giving back every dollar he had made to try and keep as many Jewish people as he could save. Right. But he got to the end and he's like, I just, I should have done more. I could have done more. Why didn't I sell everything? Why didn't I waste so much money? He wasted a lot. He did. He had a lot of good parties though. Yes, he had sex with a lot of people. Yeah, he did. And his wife was not too happy about that. No. And then after the movie ended, they got divorced. Yeah, they did. I was going to say there's a lot of stuff. Like he didn't die until 1974. Like that's pretty recent. Yeah. Pretty recent for people as old as us. Right. That's okay. It's freaking 50 years ago. Right, right. And like, it was in black and white. So it makes it feel like it's forever ago, but it's really not that. Our grandparents and in some cases, even our parents of our generation were alive when this had like Wendy's parents were alive when this happened. That's freaking crazy, dude. So crazy. Well, dude, that's like when the, uh, it's like it seems so long ago that the schools in Louisiana integrated were black people and white people who go to the same public high school. My mom was in high school when that happened. Right. I wasn't that long ago. That shit was not that long ago. We were acting like it's like, oh, we conquered racism. Remember Barack Obama? He was there for a while. All right, let's go get the food. No, we didn't. This shit just started. Yeah, there was a girl that I was teaching. And she was like, I wish, I just wish, we learned about Ruby Bridges. I wish she was still alive. I'd love to hear her talk. I was like, she is, she's 60 something years old. She's alive. They were like, what? Like yeah, she was a little girl when that happened. And that was like in 1960s, but now she's probably what? Late 60s, like you could have Ruby Bridges come and talk to you right now. She's from Mississippi. She's, I'm sure she, she would come and talk. Oh my God, Mr. Humphrey, like they were losing their mind that that person was still alive. Yeah. Well, dude, Barbara Walters just died a couple days before New Year's. Barbara Walters was born in the same year as Martin Luther King and Anne Frank. Frank, that's so crazy to think about. It's like they should still be. I mean, that should Barbara Walters pretty old, but like they could conceivably still have been alive for 50 to 70 years past when they were crazy. But anyway, yeah, that last scene of the movie is. That's my last scene also. Like that's going to be probably one of my favorite scenes of the year because I've just fricking. Yeah, dude, it was powerful. It was freaking breaking my heart out. Yeah, and then that John Williams scored did not help that at all. He was, it was good. You have quotes? I do, I have two quotes that are right. I also have two. Okay, I'll go first. The, the Ralphine's character, he's talking to Oscar Schindler and he's telling him, he's like, oh, they like you. You have empathy and you are, you're not as bad as some of us are. And they, they look up to you for that. Then he shows up the next scene. You see him walking to the stables. The saddle is on the ground. And he starts to yell at the boy that's in charge of putting the saddle in the horse and getting it ready. And then he has a change of heart. And remembers what he talked about and says, no, no, I'm going to, it's okay. Just don't do it next time. And then he's riding the horse around the concentration camp. And one of the guys has a lady and he's dragging her out by her hair. And he walks, he walks up on his horse. And he's like, she was smoking during work, sir. He's like, tell them not to do it again. Then he lets her go. Like he keeps doing that. And then he goes upstairs to take a bath. And the kid that's supposed to be cleaning his bath can't get the stains out of the tub. And he's like, it's all right, it's all right. I pardon you. And he like touches him on the shoulder. Like I'm frigging poop. And he's like, I pardon you. And the kid leaves. And then he looks at himself in the mirror. And he's like fixing his hair. And he's like, touching the mirror. And he just keeps saying, I pardon you. And he, it shows like the, like how much he wanted to try to do that. But then the shitty Nazi personality takes over. And he walks directly out onto the balcony. And that kid that just left is now walking back through the gate and gets shot from the balcony. Uh, because he's, you know, he couldn't get the stains out of the tub. Yeah. But that was like 10 minutes of the movie, which one of those was your quote. I pardon you. I just, I wanted to get to the part because when he's doing that in the mirror, uh, and he's just like, mouthing the words. And then he says it out loud. Uh, I, I like that part. I did Ralph finds was, uh, I could never put on my list of best characters because he's playing such a horrible person, but he's doing a great job at it. Yeah. He did, he should be in contention for best, but like how he always stands with his hands on his hips and his belly and it gained like 20 something pounds for the role. And he looked so much like the, uh, common dot goeth, like he was actually freaking people out. That's crazy. He's like, he's also that character and that human because that he was a real guy. It's supposed to be kind of a textbook psychopath. Yeah. Yeah. He's freaking sit on his balcony and just smoked cigarettes and just shoot people with his rifle. Just because I like that kid that you're talking about that he shot at like the kid was like cleaning his tub, couldn't get it clean and he's like, I pardon you and I'm sure the kid was scared shitless because I was scared shitless on the couch. Yeah. He's walking down the stairs and he's like, thinking that he might make it and he dude can Ralph finds start shooting at him and he misses him like three times. Yeah. And if that were me, first of all, auto long since been dead, but the kid, he doesn't run. He doesn't panic. He just goes like, well, he's shooting at me. I'm just going to keep walking and see what happens. Yeah. I don't know if you could if you're allowed to run. Well, if someone's shooting at me, I don't know how much I'm going to remember what the rules are about what I'm allowed to do and not do, but that's the, I think that's the point, right? Yeah. It's so normal for him to shoot at these people, not to kill them, but just to terrorize them that they literally know like, I just keep walking and usually sometimes he hits you, but a lot of times he misses. Yeah. And then he has to go walk on the road, made out of frickin old gravestones. Headstones. Yeah. That was crazy. My quote was the one I already talked about Liam Neeson. I could have done more. I could have done more. Yeah. I had the, there's one part where, uh, his tech stern, the guy who's running, um, Schindler's Sir Ben Kingsley, who's not playing a real person. He's playing a, an amalgam positive one to three different people, right. He left his work card at home one day and gets put on a train and Schindler finds out and he has to go down to the real station, stop him. There's two like jackass Nazi officers and says, no, it's here on the list and the list is never wrong. I'm sorry. It's, this is it. And he's like, uh, what's your name? And he writes the guy's name down and then the other guy, SS Sergeant Cunder, or whatever his name was. He's like, uh, he's trying to be a smart guy, he's like, and what is your name? And he's like, Schindler, uh, S, C H I N D L E R. Uh, he's like, gentlemen, thank you very much. I can, uh, guarantee you both will be in southern Russia before the end of the month. Good day. And walks off. And like, with the confidence that he says that and then walks off, you can see those guys faces change in the process of him walking away. Uh, and I like that part when he tells them they're going to be in southern Russia. That's wild to me that this guy who's basically running this factory, which is making stuff for the German army, but it happens to be Jewish, like he forgets his like special magic papers at home. They're like, oh, we're going to put you on a cattle cart and ship you to Auschwitz. Yeah. Cause you forgot your thing. Yeah. Forget the thing. Dude. Number one, that's wild to me. That's absolutely crazy. And number two is that there are people in the last couple of years who have said that if you have to show proof of vaccine to get an aircraft, that it's the same thing, right? That to me is so strange that if your brain came up with that sentence and then your mouth said it, I don't understand what's going on inside your head. Yeah. I don't think you want to use that. I exist in the same world because that is so foreign to me. Right. Dude, the thing I'll tell you, the Nazis were so, um, organized, I guess, I don't, I don't know. Yeah. Definitely highly organized. The scale that they would have to do what they did on, ah, it's crazy, dude. It's crazy. Yeah. So that's in your best, the organization of the German army. Yeah. Because they were good people on both sides and all the troops, both sides, all, all the troops. That's, that's crazy. Like, so let me ask you this, Hitler is bad, we're not saying he's not, is he to blame for all of this to do the people that are following orders is following orders of the thing? Cause I don't think it's a thing. You tell me to kill a bunch of innocent people. I think that's where I stopped following orders. I think the question you're asking is the question that the Nuremberg trials asked, which ultimately was the German soldiers on trial, just their whole defense was I was doing what I was told to do. I was following orders and these were trials against, crimes against peace, war crimes, crimes against humanity and their defense was I was just following orders. And the Nuremberg trial, the end of it was like, if you're given an illegal and immoral order and you follow it, you are at fault. And I think, again, I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a historian, I don't know shit about shit. I have a stupid podcast, but I think it's been pretty well established that if someone gives you an illegal order, you can't follow it and then say, well, I was just following orders. Right. So that's why Sergeant First Class Brian Berkey Bell went down with Jack Nicholson because he was following orders. Lance Corporal Harold W. Dawson puts his back on his name. Yeah, they were supposed to be looking out for the little guy. Right. Yeah, I'm with you. Conduct on becoming a United States Marine. My second quote was not one that was said in the movie, it was one that was said from John Williams to Steven Spielberg during the composition of the music because John Williams knew what the movie was going to be and he had seen it and he said to Steven Spielberg, you need a better composer than I am for this film. And Spielberg said, I know I do, but they're all dead. Oof. That's awesome. That's a famous quote between Williams. That's pretty awesome. And it was for this movie. That's pretty awesome, which is a fricking, I just, I just love that. I love that quote. That's a pretty big compliment from, yeah, he's like, dude, I would get Mozart if I could, but he's dead. So I'm getting John Williams. That's pretty good too. The next best thing. Good quote. That was a good, that was a good call, dude. There's, I got the incomparable Liam Neeson's is my number one. I literally wrote down incomparable Liam Neeson's. I had to watch. Yeah. He evisons is my shit. Um, did he was so good? He wasn't known really at this point. Spielberg wanted to cast someone who was pretty unknown. Warren Beatty was up for this part and Spielberg's like, not on movie star. I don't want anyone, I don't want anyone that you see through the part to the actor. I want someone that I don't see through. Now, unfortunately, I suddenly am Neeson's the whole time. Now I see Liam Neeson's, but when the movie came out, it's just like, no one really knew who that guy was. Yeah. But he's really good, man. And I like that, obviously like the movie is called Schindler's List. It's about Oscar Schindler, but really it's about World War II and it's about the Jews that went live through it and crack out, right. But like, I liked that he had a character arc. He started out as like, just flat out, hey, man, I just want to make money. If the Jews want to loan me some money to buy this factory because they're not going to be allowed to keep their money anyway, I'll give them some pots and pans. And then I'm going to let Serbin Kingsley run shit and I'm just going to kind of wind and die and then bribe people and then I'll just watch the money roll in. And it's exactly what happened. And it's exactly what happened. And he went through the first half of the movie where if someone got shot, one of his workers got shot, he would be like, do you know much money that's going to cost me to replace that guy? Right. And as the movie went along and he got to know these people, it actually started to like affect him on a human level. Like he would hope it would the first time someone got shot, but really took several years. Yeah, it did. And then he finally went like he like, dude, he literally had his frickin chest full of money all packed up and he was getting ready to leave and he just had to change your heart and I'm like, no, right, he went open another factory and he like took people that were going to go to Auschwitz and he was like, just let me build another smaller concentration camp. I'm going to make munitions. I'm going to make tank shells and whatever and he just brought them all there. And dude, and that factory didn't make a single shell that he spent the, he spent the last year of the war just literally going like, I don't want to make anything that the German army can use. Like he told, he told Sir Ben Kingsley in the movie. He's like, I'd be very upset if any shell comes out of this factory that is usable. He was going through and like messing with the, with the machines so they weren't coming out. Yeah, because Ben Kingsley was telling him, he's like, yeah, we felt, we felt some quality controlled checks. He's like, I think people are not happy. They're not paying. And then he was like, I find me someplace that sells shells. Yeah. Well, no, and Shindler's like, he's like, yeah, it'll happen. He's like, what are you going to do? He's like, well, they're not going to pass. He's like, well, who cares? Just, and then Kingsley's like, well, the rumor is that you're going through the factory and miss calibrating the machines. And he's like, I'd be very upset if any shell comes out of this factory that can be fired. Yeah. Find someone that we can buy him from, right? And then we'll just resell him. And so like, then he starts lying to like when the kids get separated. Yeah. And the kids were going to get sent off. He's like, no, and he grabs the little girl's hand and he's holding it up. He's like, look at this. These fingers, how else am I supposed to polish the inside of a nine millimeter shell or whatever size? It was. Yeah, 45 millimeter. 45 millimeter. He's like, we need these tiny fingers. That's what they're there for. And they're like, all right, fine, take them, bake them away toys, bake them away toys. Do what the kids said. Let them, let them go. Speaking of which, the guy who was running Auschwitz, did you see who that was? No. That was one, Mr. Well, you know what, before I say that, let me make sure. Because I thought it was Antonio Bandares. I feel sure that it was not, but please tell me it looked just like him, dude, it looked just like him. It was not him. I was going to say, dude, I'm going to find that scene and send it just that scene to you. So you can see it. All right. I don't, well, Spielberg talked about casting a lot of German and Eastern European and Polish actors so that they looked the part. So it had been a little bit of a curveball to put Antonio Bandares as one of the Germans. Well, um, the whole time I was like, that's got to be him. That looks just like him. Yeah. But no, I loved, uh, I love Liam Neeson's character arc and I really felt like the last third of this movie I thought was actually, I mean, the whole thing's excellent, but the last third I was excited at what was happening and I liked watching. And you can see as he starts to, he starts to slowly become someone who cares about his workers and cares about the Jewish people and realizes how terrible the Germans are. You can see how much effort he's putting into. He's basically a double agent, like he's going and whining and dining with the SS people and like, bribe him and he's going like, just, just tell me what it costs so that I can buy my factory workers and then frickin Ralph finds is like, why do you carry his, because it's expensive to train workers. He's like, why do you care? Just, let me buy him from you. Just tell me how much you want. Yeah. One of the, I think valid criticisms of this movie is that the hero of it is a German who actually has a change of heart and that's not who the hero should be. The hero should be the Jewish people who lived through this, right. But I, I don't know how to solve that. You need some character you can center a story around. This is a very logical person to do it because he really did spend, you know, the last couple of years trying to save, trying to save people over a thousand Jewish people. Absolutely. Who's your next character? Sir Ben Kingsley as a ish text turn. Yeah. Same dude. He was, that was a really well written part and it was even better acted that guy he did a great job. But he did, I feel like that wasn't a hard part for Ben Kingsley because he just was playing the like kind of mousey little accountant who didn't really emote much. I think that's like, I don't think that was a hard acting job for someone of his caliber. It is. But yeah, man, he was really good. And I liked that character. I liked seeing Ben Kingsley with hair. Yeah. Even though we saw him in sneakers last year and he didn't have hair. So I feel like maybe this was a wig, it could have been no more secrets, Mottie. I like how he didn't drink the whole time, every time the incomparable Liam needs some offered him a drink. He said no. And then at the end he's like, I think I better have that drink now. Well, so that was before, that was when they, they were going to close down crack out and send everyone to Auschwitz, right? And, and Liam needs since his like after the war, I mean, maybe you mean you will have that drink and like sort of Ben Kingsley's like starting to get a little emotional. He's like, I think I better have it now. Right. And I think that was one of the things that kind of led that spurred Schindler to go, I'm going to open up a new factory and I'm going to move these workers over. And then I'm going to create the actual Schindler's list where I write down 850 names and I take those people to my new munitions factory. Yeah. And when they're coming up with the names, when they're trying to do like, they're trying to figure out who they're going to take and Ben Kingsley's trying to help him. And sometimes they can't even think of the names, they're just like, it's, it's, uh, and they're trying to come up with the first name, that dude, it was well acted. This whole movie has really great acting in it. Yeah, dude, it's really well acted. One of the things I was going to say about Liam Neeson's character, Oscar Schindler is that they, and I had this where we talked about the writers, but they had like three different people write scripts for this movie and the guy who wrote the script that ended up being the shooting script, Steve Xilin, Xaelin, I'm not sure how to pronounce his name. Yeah. But he originally wrote a 115 page script and Spielberg asked him to expand it to 195 pages, which is an incredibly long script, usually one script pages about one minute of movie. So he turned in a two hour script and Spielberg wanted him to make a three hour and 15 minute script, which is what it ended up being. And that's when Spielberg is like, I want to make the ghetto massacre to be even longer. It needs to be super long. And one of the other things he asked for as he's like, I need Schindler not to have a sudden epiphany where he goes from being a war profiteer to a savior of Jewish people. I need him to be a slow transition. Nice. That's one of the things that happened in the longer script. And actually, that's how it happened in the movie. You saw he didn't go like, he was like super greedy, super shitty in the beginning. Then in the middle, he was like a little kind of shitty. And then he's like, I'm slightly less shitty sometimes. I'm nice. Right. Now I'm actually trying to save people as hard as I can as much as I can. But it was a gradual transition. I did everything about it was really, really good. My third character speaking of Ben Kingsley and the movie Sneakers is Timothy Buzzfield, who's Bruce Willis's first partner. I think it's demoted to the river police. What happened to him? Did he die in the car accident? No, no, he lived, he so Bruce Willis turned in his partner slash cousin when they were homicide detectives, and then his dad died, Fraser's dad died in the car crash. And then Bruce Willis was a drunk and it cuts two years and now he's on the river police. And his first partner is Timothy Buzzfield. And I just left Timothy Buzzfield. Oh, Jesus. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I know him. But there was a lot of good performances in striking distance. So that was a hard, that was a hard call to make. Yeah. I could see that. I just like Timothy Buzzfield though. I only had those two characters for me, Liam Newsom's Ben Kingsley. That's all I had. Yeah. You didn't have Timothy Buzzfield. I didn't, I didn't have him. All right, let's, let's talk about the writer, the director, all that stuff. And honestly, man, we may kind of wrap it up after that because I don't have any or old tech or any of that. Yeah, I was going to, I don't have an assumption. I'm going to try to recast 126 speaking roles in this movie. Right. Um, uh, hair director Steven Spielberg, yeah, he's done a few movies. He's done a couple. He's done a couple. He's done all right. Yeah, I was closing counters, um, which comes out this year, yeah, hook Indiana Jones hook. I'm a stud saving Ryan's privates dude. Speaking of hook, uh, he was so, he was so bummed out during the filming of this movie that Robin Williams called him to cheer him up. That's awesome. Yeah. He's done a lot of movies. Yeah. Dude, it's Steven Spielberg. He's the most famous movie director of our lifetime. Yeah. Everyone knows who Steven Spielberg is. He's done a pretty good job for himself. He, uh, the story about this movie is, is actually pretty wild because the, uh, one of the producers is this guy, uh, Paul Dick Pepperberg, um, who actually was one of the Schindler Juden who survived, you know, World War II, working in Oscar Schindler's factory. And pretty much, right. As soon as the World War II is over, he wants to make this, he wants to produce this story, like, it made it his life's mission. Right. There's a biopic of Schindler in 1963 in 1982, the guy Thomas, uh, can nearly publish the novel Schindler's arc, which he wrote after meeting with Pepperberg. And so that, that book Schindler's arc is what gets sent to Steven Spielberg. And then Spielberg, when he reads the story is like, is this story true? Yeah. And then I'm like, yeah. And so then Spielberg in early 1980s is like, all right, cool up, I'm going to produce this movie. So Pepperberg, Pepperberg, I don't know how to say his name, terrible at this. Fuck, pop Pfizer. Pepperberg gets this movie made and Steven Spielberg told him in 1983, he's like, I'll start doing it in 10 years and it, they filmed it and released it in 93. And Spielberg kind of said that he just, he tried to get a bunch of other people to direct this because he didn't think that he was like mature enough to do it. So like he tried to get it to Roman Polanski who actually was a Polanski survived the crack out ghetto and his mom was killed at Auschwitz Roman Polanski's terrible human, but those are things that happened to him. Yeah. So he would have and he directed the pianist, which is a Holocaust man, right? Spielberg tried to get it to Sidney Pollock, Martin Scorsese, he tried to get it to Billy Wilder. He tried to get to Brian DePalma. And then, and then the reason that Spielberg gave for finally doing the movie was that he started to see in the early 90s that there was a rise of Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis after the fall of the Berlin Wall, African people, which is one of the reasons why there's no way we could not do this movie on our dumb little podcasts, right? Despite it not being the most entertaining episode we're going to put out. I feel sure this will be our lowest listened to episode probably of this entire year. Yeah. And I don't blame them. I totally don't blame them either, but we're trying to make it as fun as we can while honoring the source material, but also it's important and people need to know. It's very real and people are alive now who lived through it. Yeah. Yeah. That's nuts. But anyway, that's, that's, that's kind of the story of how this movie gets to be made and how Spielberg becomes attached to it. That's pretty awesome. Did you see some of the stuff that the guy who wrote the screenplay? You've seen some of the other movies he's done? Yep. Searching, searching for Bobby Fisher, you love that movie. We talked about doing it this year and I'll think we're going to have time for it. But dude, money ball, I freaking love, he wrote money ball with Aaron Sork and money balls one of my favorites. The interpreter. I love that movie. Gangs of New York. That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah. He's written some good stuff. Absolutely. I got, I got nothing else since it wasn't Antonio Banderas. I have no Antonio Banderas. I do have, we talked about John Williams, obviously, like Spielberg is the best, probably the most well known director of our lifetime. John Williams, the most well known composer, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, just all the jams. I don't think that Schindler's list is one of his best works of composition, but I know there are a lot of people who do. Yeah. There's the violin forward, very violin heavy. It's really string heavy for me. Yeah. I like it. Again, it's not my favorite either. I don't think it's his best, but it's really good. And it sets the perfect mood and the perfect tone for what you're watching on the screen. Do the crazy thing to me is that Spielberg in the evenings after shooting Schindler's list would work on editing Jurassic Park. Spielberg and John Williams did Jurassic Park and Schindler's list in the same year. It's nuts. That is insane. Yeah. That's, that's two good movies right back to back in the same year. I mean, that's not even two good movies. That's two massive movies. They both made absolute dump trucks worth of money and Schindler's list swept the awards season and Jurassic Park spawned like 11 sequels. Right. I've been Jurassic Park once some of the awards that night also. I'm sure it won some of the effects because the effects on that movie are stupid. We'll talk about it later this season when we get to Jurassic Park. Oh, we're going to do that one. Jurassic Park slash striking distance striking distance is now the new, the new buffer between all the, all the bad movies we have to do. And we're not doing any bad movies and this isn't a bad movie. I just wanted it to be more fun to talk about. Right. I think that's, but yeah, just John Williams, Steven Spielberg, pretty good year. During the filming of this movie, like the filming of this movie took place during Passover, which obviously a really important Jewish holiday and Spielberg said that during Passover, every one of the German actors showed up. They put on your arm because they opened up the hagatas and the Israeli actors just like sat him down and explained it to him and just everybody just sat around and like celebrated the Jewish holiday of Passover during the filming of this movie. That's pretty sweet. And I think that the filming of it was pretty emotional for a lot of the, the Jewish actors involved, including Steven Spielberg and the, a lot of the Germans that had been cast in the movie as SS people. He said that Spielberg said he had a hard time getting Germans to take parts. He's like, I don't want to put on an SS uniform. Right. Nobody knows. But a lot of them had said that after the movie that they're like, actually, I'm thank you for having me do that because it actually really was cathartic to kind of go through that process. Jeez. Dude, I don't like, you know, how in the very beginning the opening of the violin and you can hear the typewriter and the names are popping up. Yeah. By the way, it's that Pearlman on the violin is one of the Israeli American violinists who's considered one of the best violin players in the world. Yeah. He is. Did you notice one of the names in the very beginning? I don't think so. Yeah. And I know a couple of people with that last name, which was weird to see it again. I didn't realize. Yeah. There's some Jewish horns. Yeah. I knew there was Jewish horns. But we're not Jewish. No, no. You guys are Catholic as can be. Yeah. Well, you're not. But your family is. Yeah. And not so much anymore. We're all Catholic in the same way that if a cow was born in a tree, he's a bird. Exactly. Yeah. One other thing worth mentioning that Schindler's List was shown on TV, network television and 1997 uncut and without commercials to a huge rating, by the way, but also like 1997. Wow. But also, like, I had to have like this film is from a true audience's label at a time when they didn't really make you do that on TV shows, but like, we'll do Schindler's List. We'll do it uncut. We'll do it without commercials, but we have to have TVM on there all the time. Yeah. That's probably a smart move though. Yeah. Do you know what a flip through the channels and come up on this? No. Schindler's Spielberg said the girl who played the little girl in the red jacket, who was like three during the filming of the movie, he asked her not to watch the movie until she was 18. I could see it. Yeah. I don't have any more good. I mean, I don't have any more good and I don't even know if any of that was good. Everyone involved did a really good job. The subject material is very not good, but it's important. So if any of those people are listening, good job. Yeah. Yeah. And we, uh, we would love to hear from those of you who actually listen to this. But if we're going to do other serious, important movies, I don't think we'll do a lot of them, but we may occasionally feel compelled to do one. What about this? Did we do that you liked and what could we have done better? Because I liked it. I personally would like to find a way to do movies that with heavy subject matter. Dude, Philadelphia is in 1994, Hank Swins is the best actor, Oscar. That's not a fun movie either, but it's an important movie and I think we probably do it. So I want to know, like, what's our pathway to do that and still have it be entertaining? Right. I'd love to hear some feedback if, if you guys have anything for us. Yeah, because at its base, this is a, uh, two Chevy guys giggling. Yeah. We're trying to have fun here. Yeah, it's not. And we want people who are listening to have fun, which we think that you guys probably do because we're having fun. Right. But my thing is is like you read some of the, um, who when people see like movie reviews, they think it's like, ebert, ebert and robert. Yeah. Cisco and ebert. Cisco and ebert. Those guys, while they had their thing and it was not super boring, they were more into the minutiae of how stuff was made and stuff like that. We're just giggling and talking about what we liked about it. Yeah. Yeah. And we're also trying not to be Jay Sherman. It stinks. It stinks. I wonder what she looks like naked. Oh, no, you said that out loud. I wonder what she looks like naked. I wonder what she looks like naked. All right. Let's just skip to five questions, is it okay for kids, I mean, Spielberg said to wait until she was 18. Yeah. But then your mom showed it to seven graders. Right. I say with the correct contacts and the, the right lead in, um, I think 13 or 14 is okay. Yeah. With stuff like this, I kind of go back to the conversations about like, when do you have to tell your kids about racism and it's like, I think a good answer is, uh, what age to black kids have to start dealing with it, because that's the age that white kid should have to start hearing about it. Right. No, agreed totally. So like, whatever, you know, if, if you can live through the Holocaust at six, you probably can learn about it then too. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I don't, I mean, you know, I don't, I'm not going to have, I'm not going to be in a hurry to show this to my kid because I don't want to watch it again, uh, because it's brutal. But I don't want to watch it again, but I know I'm going to look for different stuff when I watch it the next time. I think if I watch the next time, I'll get a lot more out of it because I'll be able to step back. It's, I hadn't seen it so long, it was so emotional. Me too. I'll be able to just go like, man, I can really like detach and kind of, uh, think, look at this. Absolutely. With a little bit of a move. Would it get made if it was pitch now? Probably not. Yeah. I hope not. I don't want to. They've made some Holocaust movies. Probably, you know, probably one good one every decade. Uh, there's a lot of them. I don't, um, so we don't have to worry about whether it would be a TV or a movie. Um, do you, did you do any recasts? I don't want to recast this. Yeah. Uh, there were 126 speaking parts in this movie. I did not attempt to recast it. I don't even know where to be. Um, I didn't come up with any, uh, who plays the lead if they remade it. I didn't, I didn't do that either. Yeah. Can you still watch and enjoy this movie in 2022? Yeah. Uh, enjoy is maybe not the right word. Enjoy. It's not the right word. The movie is still good. It's supposed to be. And worth watching. Yeah. And you absolutely can and should watch it. But enjoy is maybe not the right word for. Yeah. And also it's 2023. So by the way, you can watch it on peacock. Yeah. I don't have peacock. But I do. That's three. It's three 99 everywhere else unless it's YouTube and then it's 1499. Um, but every place is three 99, you should, uh, you should grab it and watch it if you can. Yep. All right. That is it for episode two Schindler's list slash striking distance striking distance by the way, not available anywhere for free. You have to pay for it unless you watch it on Voodoo with commercials. But it's a tight hour 45 if you're ever looking for a really stupid Bruce Willis movie where he drives a boat with Sarah Jessica Parker. Oh, man. I can't believe you said Voodoo and I didn't I didn't know what that was, but I just had been striking this is to pull it up. Um, it's on to be for free. I'm sure that's maybe that's what it is. It's one of those like off brand streaming sites that I feel like it's probably going to put a virus on my computer if I click on. Yeah. Um, also when I tried been striking this is I didn't know Dennis Farina was in that. Yeah. Well, that dude, he was one of his uncles slash cousins. Man, we should do this movie. Dude, the cast is good. Yeah. I think this, I think the, uh, this year is pretty tight, but it's got nine. It's got, no, 17 on rotten tomatoes. So that's, it's pretty good. Sarah Jessica Parker, Bruce Willis, Dennis Farino, Frazier's dad, Timothy Buzzfield, Tom Sizemore, Brian James, Brian James is from Fifth Element. Yeah. Andre Brower. Yeah. It's, dude, it's a great cast. It's fun. Dude, you should. All right. I'm going to make my kids watch it every weekend. If you made it through this episode, please tell us, uh, what, what about this? We did well and what about this? We should do better of next time. Yeah. Next episode, one of my all time favorite movies, Groundhog Day. Nice. Fantastic. Side of your eye. Side of your eye. Don't drive inside of your eye. Side of your eye. Scheduled to come out February 6th. So shortly after, right after, yeah, right after Groundhog Day. That's awesome. I don't know how I'm going to get it down to three quotes for this one. I got to tell you, I don't know how I'm going to do the three scenes or three quotes. The scenes should be easy because he's just doing the same thing over and over again, but the quotes, there's more than three quotes from that movie that I use all the time. They're different. Which, which scene from the diner do you want? He was a really nice guy. We all really liked him a lot. No thanks. I've seen Larry. Oh. I want a great, that's fantastic. I can't wait to watch that one. Don't drive angry. Oh. Yeah. Friggin. Viacondias. Here director. Here director. Thanks for listening. The movie life crisis. Please subscribe, rate and review, and remember, don't drive angry.